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In the 'Remarkable People' podcast, Guy Kawasaki engages with Harvard professor Leslie Valiant, a Turing Award recipient known for his contributions to computer science, including theories on learning, complexity, and parallel processing. Valiant delves into the concept of 'educability', distinguishing it from intelligence and Carol Dweck's 'growth mindset'. He defines 'educability' as a human trait for absorbing information and suggests that AI has advanced by focusing on learning from examples, a measurable aspect, rather than the ambiguous concept of intelligence. Valiant discusses the challenges in measuring educability and proposes the development of tests to assess learning abilities over time. Kawasaki speculates on the potential differences in educability among genders and the importance of enhancing educability for both individuals and organizations, viewing it as a long-term research endeavor. The conversation touches on the moral implications of educability, with Valiant emphasizing its moral neutrality and the importance of advocating for good. He also addresses the universal nature of educability, AI's evolution, and the limitations of systems like CHAT GPT, critiquing the Turing test's effectiveness. Valiant highlights the complexities of training AI with diverse political views and the dilemma of instilling beliefs in AI. He believes humanity poses a greater existential threat than AI and stresses the importance of managing AI responsibly. Kawasaki and Valiant discuss the early stages of understanding educability, with Valiant suggesting that awareness of information absorption is crucial. Valiant also explores the challenge of evaluating the truth and the psychological aspects of belief, influenced by existing views and social circles. Kawasaki, a marketing expert with a history at Apple and Canva, underscores the importance of adaptability and learning, believing that Valiant's work on 'educability' could significantly impact humanity's future. Kawasaki concludes by comparing 'educability' to 'growth mindset', considering a collaboration between Valiant and Dweck, promoting his new book 'Think Remarkable', and expressing gratitude for his team's contributions to the podcast.
In the 'Remarkable People' podcast, Guy Kawasaki engages with Harvard professor Leslie Valiant, a Tu